Gobierno del Presidente Nicolás Maduro

[JRAP2020]

Hoy declaro que también está dispuesto a atacar México
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[KL Albrecht Achilles]

¿No se sabe nada del/los submarino/os? Saludos cordiales.

Siempre he pensado que si se deciden a lanzarles unos sartenazos, los primeros petardos los lanzaran desde el sumergible relativamente cerca de la costa.

Saludos

[Spartan1989]

¿No se sabe nada del/los submarino/os? Saludos cordiales.

Siempre he pensado que si se deciden a lanzarles unos sartenazos, los primeros petardos los lanzaran desde el sumergible relativamente cerca de la costa.

Saludos

Y en Venezuela no hay nada que pueda hacer frente a ningun submarino.

Ni siquiera a los de Colombia

[Silver_Dragon]

Estimado Silver Dragon:

¿No se sabe nada del/los submarino/os? Saludos cordiales.

¿Useños Reytuerto?, si no vamos desencaminados, el grupo del combate del CVN Ford, podría llevar 1-2 submarinos (no se ha dicho nada), pero me huele que serán SSNs de la clase Virginia y/o Seawolfs

Virginia (ii) SSN
Displacement: 7800 subm In Class: 22 + 12 + 4
Size Class: B/Medium In Service: 2007
Propulsion: Nuclear Crew: 132

Electrn Cnt: None Acoustic Cnt: 4th Gen
Signature: Small/EQuiet Armor Rating: 0
Max Depth: Int V Btry Rtng: 5 (Emerg.)

Weapons: Cbt Sys: Gen 6 Automatic
PB&SB(2)2 533mm (Quiet launch) TT w/26 weapons, est. loadout 14 Mk48 Mod 7, 12 Tomahawk D, F
PB&SB(12)1 VLS w/12 Tomahawk (Blocks I/II) D
PB&SB(6)2 VPT w/12 Tomahawk total (Blocks III/IV) D

Sensors: ES/AIR: 3rd/5th Gen
BQQ-10(V)4, TB-29A, TB-16G, BQG-5A WAA, BQS-24 ADMS mine detection K
BPS-16, Raytheon Pathfinder J
Periscopes: Search (EO, LLTV, 4th Gen IR, 3rd Gen ES, laser rf.), Attack (EO, LLTV, 4th Gen IR, 3rd Gen ES, laser rf.) --

Remarks:
Fitted with pump jet propulsor and anechoic coating. Blocks I and II have the CSA Mk2 Mod2 with 14 external CM launchers. Blocks III and IV have CSA Mk4 with 16 external launchers. Broadband sonar jammers and torpedo ACMs, 5 Tactical Turn duration. Blocks III/IV have two multipurpose Virginia Payload Tubes (VPT) vice individual VLS. Each tube can hold six Tomahawk missiles or a large UUV.
Fitted with a 9-man lockout chamber. Can carry 40 SOF troops with no reload torpedoes or 27 SOF with 8 reload torpedoes. Not currently fitted for mines.

• Nov 05: Virginia operational mission prior to post-shakedown availability, IOC 2007 (first operational patrol), FOC 2009.
• Block I: 774 Virginia, 775 Texas, 776 Hawaii, 777 North Carolina
• Block II: 778 New Hampshire, 779 New Mexico, 780 Missouri 781 California, 782 Mississippi, 783 Minnesota
• Block III: 784 North Dakota, 785 John Warner, 786 Illinois, 787 Washington, 788 Colorado, 789 Indiana, 790 South Dakota, 791 Delaware. LAB replaces Sphere sonar, TB-34 replaces TB-16G.
• Block IV, SSN 792-801: 792 Vermont, 793 Oregon, 794 Montana, 795 Hyman G. Rickover, 796 New Jersey, 797 Iowa, 798 Massachusetts, 799 Idaho, 800 Arkansas, 801 Utah.
• Block V, SSN 802-811, 10200 subm with (4)1 VPM added, each with 7 Tomahawk. Other VPM options are 3 Conventional Prompt Strike (2028) or 7 torpedoes or 14 MALD or 1 large UUV: 802 Oklahoma (Not fitted with VPM), 803 Arizona, 804 Barb, 805 Tang, 806 Wahoo, 807 Silversides, 808 John H. Dalton, 809 Long Island, 810 San Francisco, 811 Miami. In service planned 2028.
• Block VA Subsea and Seabed Warfare (SWW): One planned with some VPM used for UUV.
• Block VI proposed with additional VLS and improved sensors. Up to seven planned.
• 2014: SSN 776, 782, 784 and 779 fitted for DDS. SSN 778 fitted 2018. Possibly SSN 777 in the future.
• 14 Oct 23: 795 Hyman G. Rickover commissioned.
• Aug 24: 791 Delaware fitted with Remus 600 capable of being deployed and recovered from 533mm TT.

Damage & Speed Breakdown:
DP (Blks I-IV): 0 42 84 126 151 168
DP (Blk V): 0 50 101 151 181 201
Surf Speed: 15 11 8 4 0 Sinks
Sub Spd (I-IV): 34 26 17 9 0 Sinks
Sub Spd (V): 32 24 16 8 0 Sinks

Seawolf (ii) SSN
Displacement: 9150 subm In Class: 3
Size Class: B/Medium In Service: 1997
Propulsion: Nuclear Crew: 131

Electrn Cnt: None Acoustic Cnt: 4th Gen
Signature: Small/EQuiet Armor Rating: 0
Max Depth: Deep I Btry Rtng: 5 (Emerg.)

Weapons: Cbt Sys: Gen 5 Automatic
PB&SB(4)2 Mk60 (Quiet launch) 670mm TT w/50 weapons, est. loadout 38 Mk48 Mod 6, 12 Tomahawk Blk III F, D

Sensors: ES/AIR: 4th/4th Gen BSY-2, BQG-5, BQS-24, TB-16D, TB-29A towed arrays K
BPS-16 J
Periscopes: Search (2nd Gen ES, LLTV), Attack --

Remarks:
Seawolf, Connecticut, Jimmy Carter. Fitted with pump jet propulsor and anechoic coating. Fitted with CSA Mk2 Mod0 with 14 external CM
launchers. Broadband sonar jammers and torpedo ACMs, 5 Tactical Turn duration.

• 1997-00: Seawolf not operational due to problems with HP air system, propulsor and sonar. First operational patrol Jun 01 - Tomahawk Blk III fitted mid-deployment.
• 1998-00: Connecticut not operational. Brief patrol mid-2001.
• 2004-07: BQS-24 mine detection sonar added.
• Feb 05: Jimmy Carter in service. 12140 t subm, crew 151. Can hover and turn in own length using propulsors. Fitted for 50 SOF troops, DDS and ASDS, max subm speed 30 kts.
• 2007: Seawolf and Connecticut move from Atlantic to Pacific Fleet.
• 2007: Mk48 Mod 7 torpedoes added?
• 2010-13: Seawolf undergoes overhaul. BQQ-10(V)5 replaces BSY-2. TB-34 and TB-29C added. 5th Gen AIR. BYG-1 6th Gen Automatic combat system also fitted. CSA Mk2 Mod 0 replaced with CSA Mk3 with 16 external launchers. Broadband sonar jammers and torpedo ACMs, 5 Tactical Turn duration. Type 18 periscope updated with IR (3rd Gen), ES (3rd Gen), and GPS. Type 8 periscope backfitted with IR (3rd Gen).
• 2012-16: Connecticut undergoes overhaul. BQQ-10(V)5 replaces BSY-2. TB-34 and TB-29C added. 5th Gen AIR. BYG-1 6th Gen Automatic combat system also fitted. CSA Mk2 Mod 0 replaced with CSA Mk3 with 16 external launchers. Broadband sonar jammers and torpedo ACMs, 5 Tactical Turn duration. Type 18 search periscope updated with IR (3rd Gen), ES (3rd Gen), and GPS. Type 8 attack periscope backfitted with IR (3rd Gen).
• 2016: Mk48 Mod 7 torpedo available.
• 2017: Jimmy Carter fitted with Mission Reconfigurable Unmanned Undersea Vehicle (MRUUV).
• 2 Oct 21: Connecticut collides with uncharted seamount in the South China Sea. Damage to forward ballast tanks. Sailed under its power to Guam for repairs. Repairs planned Feb 23 - Sep 25.

Damage & Speed Breakdown:
Dam Pts (S, C): 0 47 93 140 167 186
Dam Pts (JC): 0 56 113 169 203 225
Surf Speed: 18 14 9 5 0 Sinks
Sub Sp (S, C): 38 29 19 10 0 Sinks
Sub Sp (JC): 30 23 15 8 0 Sinks

Se sabe que el USS Newport News (SSN-750) Improved Los Angeles SSN, podría estar en la zona. Por mis datos:

Improved Los Angeles SSN
Displacement: see remarks In Class: 23 - 1
Size Class: B/Medium In Service: 1988
Propulsion: Nuclear Crew: 141

Electrn Cnt: None Acoustic Cnt: 3rd Gen
Signature: Small/VQuiet Armor Rating: 0
Max Depth: Int V Btry Rtng: 5 (Emerg.)

Weapons: Cbt Sys: Gen 5 Automatic
PB&SB(2)2 Mk67 533mm TT w/26 weapons, est. loadout
12 Mk48 ADCAP, 6 Harpoon, 8 Tomahawk Blk I/II (1988-97)
18 Mk48 ADCAP, 8 Tomahawk Blk III (1997) F, D
PB&SB(12)1 Mk45 VLS w/12 Tomahawk D

Sensors: ES/AIR: 3rd/3rd Gen
BSY-1 (BQQ-5D), BQS-15, TB-16D and TB-23 towed arrays K
BPS-16, Raytheon Pathfinder J
Periscopes: Search (2nd Gen ES, LLTV), Attack (LLTV) --

Remarks:
Fitted with anechoic coating and CSA Mk2 Mod1 with 14 external CM launchers. Broadband sonar jammers and torpedo ACMs, 5 Tactical Turn duration. Fitted for under-ice operations. SSN 756 and on can carry Mk67 Submarine Launched Mobile Mines (SLMM).

• SSN 751-770: 7147 t subm.
• Hartford SSN 768 was the trials platform for the pump jet propulsor design for SSN 21.
• SSN 771-773: 7177 t subm.
• Oct 90: AN/BSY-1 combat system fully operational on SSN 755. SSN 751, 752, and 754 have reduced capability before this date treat the combat system as 3rd Gen Semi-Automatic.
• May 95 - 2003: Asheville SSN 758 was the trials platform for the AMDS HF sonar for mine avoidance, navigation and ASW. (AMDS) - HF sonar under-ice, bottom navigation, ASW and MH.
• Late 90s: BSY-1 updated to BQQ-5E standard. Fitted with WLY-1 (4th Gen AIR) and 4th Gen ACM.
• 1999-00: SSN 772, 776 fitted for ASDS - 4 more were planned.
• 1999: SSN 760 fitted with BVS-1 and BLQ-21 EW
• Aug 99: SSN 767 trials TB-29 in Atlantic.
• Late 96: SSN 760 trials BVS-1 periscope (see Virginia SSN).
• 2001: Fitted with combined COMINT/ELINT/ES mast (BLQ-10)
• Sep 02: TACTOM available for VLS only.
• 2007-10: Fitted with BQQ-10(V)4 vice BSY-1. TB-29A replaces TB-23. TB-34 replaces TB-16D. BYG-1 6th Gen Automatic combat system replaces BSY-1. Type 18 search periscope updated with IR (3rd Gen), ES (3rd Gen), and GPS. Type 8 attack periscope backfitted with IR (3rd Gen). Mk48 Mod 7 torpedo available.
• 2008-11: Fitted with keel ice avoidance sonar, provision for new towed arrays.
• 23 May 12: SSN 755 Miami badly damaged during dockyard fire. Struck due to budget cuts.
• Sep 20: SSN 760 operational with Blackwing submarine launched unmanned aerial system (SLUAS). At least five ship sets delivered.

Damage & Speed Breakdown:
DP (7147 t): 0 40 79 119 142 158
DP (7177 t): 0 40 80 119 143 159
Surf Speed: 15 11 8 4 0 Sinks
Subm Speed: 32 24 16 8 0 Sinks

El SSGN si estuviera cerca... seguramente el SSBN Ohio

Ohio SSGN SSGN
Displacement: 18750 subm In Class: 4
Size Class: A/Large In Service: 2007
Propulsion: Nuclear Crew: 157

Electrn Cnt: None Acoustic Cnt: 4th Gen
Signature: Med/EQuiet Armor Rating: 0
Max Depth: Int V Btry Rtng: 5 (Emerg.)

Weapons: Cbt Sys: Gen 6 Automatic
PB&SB(2)2 Mk68 (Quiet launch) 533mm TT w/12 weapons, est. loadout 1 MOSS launcher w/4 MOSS 3rd gen mobile decoy, 11 Mk48 ADCAP. Cannot fire TACTOM from TT F
(22)1 tubes w/see remarks --

Sensors: ES/AIR: 4th/4th Gen
BQQ-5E (passive only), BQR-7, TB-16D, TB-23 K
BPS-15, Raytheon Pathfinder J
Periscopes: Search (EO, 4th Gen IR, 3rd Gen ES, laser rf.), Attack --

Remarks:
SSGN 726 Ohio, SSGN 727 Michigan, SSGN 728 Florida, SSGN 729 Georgia. Natural circulation reactor. Fitted with anechoic coating. Fitted with CSA Mk2 Mod 4 with 14 external CM launchers. Broadband sonar jammers and torpedo ACMs, 5 Tactical Turn duration. Can plan SOF and Tomahawk strikes. Can carry 66 SEALs for long durations plus further 36 SEALs for short durations.

• 2 tubes converted to 9-swimmer lockout chambers and docks for ASDS and DDS docks - 6 tubes unusable with ASDS carried or 8 tubes unusable with DDS carried. Further 8 tubes can ship either UUV or SOF equipment (2 weapons, 4 dry, 2 wet) or 7 Tomahawk each. Last 14 tubes can carry 7 Tomahawk each. See below for loadouts - estimate 70% Blk IIIC, 30% Blk IIID.
• Pure strike: 140 Tomahawk.
• SOF (ASDS): 1 ASDS, 98 Tomahawk (one would be this standard).
• SOF (DDS): 2 DDS or 1 DDS and 1 ASDS, 56 Tomahawk (estimate two DDS is standard).
• 2006-08: Returned to service - Ohio (2002-Feb 06), Florida (Aug 03-Apr 06), Michigan (Mar 04-Oct 06), Georgia (Mar 05-Sep 07). Have two crews for 70% in-theater presence.
• Sep 07: Ohio declared fully operational. Remainder declared operational in late 2007.
• 2008: Mk48 Mod 7 torpedoes available.
• 2011-12: BQQ-5E replaced by BQQ-10(V)6.
• Apr 17 - Aug 19: Ohio completes 27-month overhaul.
• Aug 19 - May 22: Michigan Extended Refit Period.
• FY26: Florida and Ohio planned to be struck.
• FY28: Georgia and Michigan planned to be struck.

Damage & Speed Breakdown:
Dam Pts: 0 75 151 226 271 301
Surf Speed: 15 11 8 4 0 Sinks
Subm Speed: 25 19 12 6 0 Sinks

Como dicen, las capacidades actuales de Venezuela y Colombia son.... a saber

Mientras, haciendo un "desfile aereo" sobre barcelona (y muy pocos armados).

[Silver_Dragon]

Mientras, el LHD-7 Iwo Jima, está mas cerca de Venezuela que de Trinidad y Tobago...


Hay helicopteros dando vueltas por venezuela.

[Spartan1989]

Hay helicopteros dando vueltas por venezuela.

Sera que tienen la fe y la esperanza de que van a llegar al 27 de Noviembre

Y estan practicando para el desfile

[Silver_Dragon]

El San Antonio LPD y un destructor useño entre Trinidad y Tobago y Venezuela. Mientras, mas fuerzas, están en el norte.


Hay un MQ-4C Triton, dirigiendose hacia la zona.


Mis datos del Triton.
MQ-4C Triton Maritime Patrol
Man Rtng: 0.0 Damage Value: 18
Size/Signature: Large/Large Bombsight: --

Sensors: ZPY-3 radar, 4th Gen FLIR/EO, 4th Gen ES, Link 16 data link

Throttle Setting/Speed in knots
Altitude Cruise Full Mil Reheat
Low: 310 345 --
Med: 310 345 --
High: 310 345 --
VHigh: 310 345 --
Ceiling: 18288 m Engine Type: TF
Cruise Range: 9750 nmi Int Fuel: 7400 kg

Remarks: In Svc: Jan 20
UAV. Operates from runways. Controlled by SATCOM. Based at Point Mugu, California (VUP-11) and Jacksonville, Florida (VUP-19); FOL at Andersen AFB, Guam and Sigonella, Italy.

• Jan 20: Early IOC for IFC-3 standard. 12 delivered.
• Jan 20: Early Operational Capability (EOC) with two UAV at Guam. Two UAV deployed May 20-Mar 23 to Guam, Misawa and Iwakuni in Japan.
• 2022: First IFC-4 aircraft delivered. Five delivered by Jun 23.
• 9 Sep 23: IOC with SIGINT added to replace EP-3E. System deployed to Guam.
• 2 Mar 24: FOL opens at Sigonella for VUP-19. First deployment 30 Mar 24.
• FY24: Production ceases after 27 UAV delivered. Original plans called for 67 UAV. 27 UAV allows for three orbits with 12 UAV and 15 for training and reserve.
• 2026: All IFC-3 updated to IFC-4 by this date.

ZPY-3 radar
Country / Name / Mode / Gen / Contact vs Large / Med / Small / VSmall / Stealthy / Remarks
USA / ZPY-3 MFAS / SS / 6 / 150 / 150 / 85 / 48 / 27 / B, C, G

Remarks:
B: Phased Array
C: SAR Mode
G: ISAR Mode

[Silver_Dragon]

Muy pocos kilometros...


Atentos


un MQ-9B cargado hasta las trancas.


Mis datos:

MQ-9B Reaper Recon/Attack
Man Rtng: 0.0 Damage Value: 11
Size/Signature: Small/VSmall Bombsight: Computing
Sensors: APY-8 Lynx SAR.GMTI radar, 4th Gen FLIR/EO, laser rf/ designator

Throttle Setting/Speed in knots
Altitude Cruise Full Mil Reheat
Low: 120 240 --
Med: 120 240 --
High: 120 240 --
Ceiling: 15200 m Engine Type: TP
Cruise Range: 3060 nmi Int Fuel: 1814 kg

Additional Fuel Fuel Wt. Range Add.
100 USG drop tank 305 kg 680 nmi

Ordnance Loadouts: Payload: 1361 kg

• 2 GBU-12 Paveway II, 4 AGM-114P Hellfire (standard)
• 8 AGM-114P (late 20) or 4 GBU-12 or 16 GBU-39 or 16 GBU-53
• Gorgon Stare system (500 kg)
• ALQ-167 (Upgr.) 'Angry Kitten' spot jamming pod (trials 2023)

Remarks: In Svc: May 07
UAV, 150 nmi LOS and SATCOM control links. Take-off and recovery from runway. 60 planned for USAF in 3 squadrons (9 systems each 4 UAV). Can laser designate targets from High altitude. Gorgon Stare can image 12 targets over 4 km radius.
• Systems: GBU-12 Paveway II 2006; GBU-49 May 08; Gorgon Stare May 11; GBU-38 vice GBU-12 2011?; GBU-39 Mar 12; GBU-53 2023
• 2008: IOC with GMTI mode operational on APY-8 radar (can detect moving ground vehicles, possibly troops from 2012)
• 2013?: APY-8 SAR mode operational - can drop GPS guided weapons without visual LOS.
• 2014: Flown by 3rd SOS, AFSOC.
• 2015: Reaper ER in service. Longer wings and external tanks, range 4080 nmi.
• 2017: Integrated with GBU-39B Laser Small Diameter Bomb.
• FY17-18: Fitted with Link 16.
• Sep 18: Two systems leased by USMC. Transferred to USMC VMU-1 squadron Oct 21. Additional 16 Reaper ER planned from 2023. Total three VMU, each six UAV from for data link relay (2025), AEW (unknown system 2026?) and EW (ALQ-167 2026?).
• 2022: Fitted with automatic take-off and landing capability. Can operate from any airfield.
• Jul 23 - 25: USAF trials with ALQ-167 (Upgr.) 'Angry Kitten' spot jamming pod.
• FY24: 50 planned with AFSOC.
• Planned retirement dates: MQ-9B 2027, Reaper ER 2035.

[juancho.col]

Muy pocos kilometros...


Atentos


un MQ-9B cargado hasta las trancas.


Mis datos:

MQ-9B Reaper Recon/Attack
Man Rtng: 0.0 Damage Value: 11
Size/Signature: Small/VSmall Bombsight: Computing
Sensors: APY-8 Lynx SAR.GMTI radar, 4th Gen FLIR/EO, laser rf/ designator

Throttle Setting/Speed in knots
Altitude Cruise Full Mil Reheat
Low: 120 240 --
Med: 120 240 --
High: 120 240 --
Ceiling: 15200 m Engine Type: TP
Cruise Range: 3060 nmi Int Fuel: 1814 kg

Additional Fuel Fuel Wt. Range Add.
100 USG drop tank 305 kg 680 nmi

Ordnance Loadouts: Payload: 1361 kg

• 2 GBU-12 Paveway II, 4 AGM-114P Hellfire (standard)
• 8 AGM-114P (late 20) or 4 GBU-12 or 16 GBU-39 or 16 GBU-53
• Gorgon Stare system (500 kg)
• ALQ-167 (Upgr.) 'Angry Kitten' spot jamming pod (trials 2023)

Remarks: In Svc: May 07
UAV, 150 nmi LOS and SATCOM control links. Take-off and recovery from runway. 60 planned for USAF in 3 squadrons (9 systems each 4 UAV). Can laser designate targets from High altitude. Gorgon Stare can image 12 targets over 4 km radius.
• Systems: GBU-12 Paveway II 2006; GBU-49 May 08; Gorgon Stare May 11; GBU-38 vice GBU-12 2011?; GBU-39 Mar 12; GBU-53 2023
• 2008: IOC with GMTI mode operational on APY-8 radar (can detect moving ground vehicles, possibly troops from 2012)
• 2013?: APY-8 SAR mode operational - can drop GPS guided weapons without visual LOS.
• 2014: Flown by 3rd SOS, AFSOC.
• 2015: Reaper ER in service. Longer wings and external tanks, range 4080 nmi.
• 2017: Integrated with GBU-39B Laser Small Diameter Bomb.
• FY17-18: Fitted with Link 16.
• Sep 18: Two systems leased by USMC. Transferred to USMC VMU-1 squadron Oct 21. Additional 16 Reaper ER planned from 2023. Total three VMU, each six UAV from for data link relay (2025), AEW (unknown system 2026?) and EW (ALQ-167 2026?).
• 2022: Fitted with automatic take-off and landing capability. Can operate from any airfield.
• Jul 23 - 25: USAF trials with ALQ-167 (Upgr.) 'Angry Kitten' spot jamming pod.
• FY24: 50 planned with AFSOC.
• Planned retirement dates: MQ-9B 2027, Reaper ER 2035.

Ufff eso es como si les hubieran dicho, sigan preparándose que en cualquier momento se da la orden.

Aquí pensando de todo un poco, y si las “conversaciones” son un plan de EEUU para que Maduro y Cia se relajen y sea más fácil bajárselos?

[Onirico]

Ufff eso es como si les hubieran dicho, sigan preparándose que en cualquier momento se da la orden.

Aquí pensando de todo un poco, y si las “conversaciones” son un plan de EEUU para que Maduro y Cia se relajen y sea más fácil bajárselos?

Esas conversaciones son como cuando llamas a servicio técnico por que tu internet no funciona y te hacen realizar una serie de pasos que ya has realizado y sabes que no solucionarán el problema pero por protocolo te hacen realizarlos: desconecte el modem, vea si las luces parpadean, reinicie su pc... y luego de finalizado todo el protocolo es que van al meollo del asunto.

Maduro no puede ofrecer nada que el Imperio quiera y Maduro solo puede pedir: una cumbre, salvo conductos, protege a mi familia, quítame la recompensa, pon dinero en mis campos petroleros, pon dinero en mis minas, por favor dame la mano.

Imagino que el Lord Inquisidor Trump Señor de la Flota, solo le está ofreciendo a Maduro que conserve su vida, la misma oferta que le hizo en agosto, vete con la recompensa encima y con el oro o morirás o te intentaremos capturar y saben que Maduro les dirá que no, puro protocolo.

Las élites económicas y políticas de EE.UU hace tiempo que están dominada por abogados, esto explica la fuerza de sus instituciones legales pero también genera rigidez en su sistema de justicia, por eso aunque quisiera Trump no podría quitarle la recompensa al narco tirano, quizás los delincuentes rojos crean que su interpretación del derecho formado por jueces comisarios, expertos en castigar, en someter, de inferir sufrimiento y dolor a los opositores es como funciona la justicia en el resto del mundo.

En última instancia, esas conversaciones forma parte de un check list que debe marcarse.

[Andrés Eduardo González]

Pues se marcó muy rápido ese punto en la "check list"...

Estados Unidos rechazó una oferta de Maduro para dejar el poder luego de una transición de dos a tres años

Cualquier demora en la salida del dictador chavista es inaceptable para la Casa Blanca

https://www.infobae.com/america/the-new ... tres-anos/

[Severino16]

Pues se marcó muy rápido ese punto en la "check list"...

Estados Unidos rechazó una oferta de Maduro para dejar el poder luego de una transición de dos a tres años

Cualquier demora en la salida del dictador chavista es inaceptable para la Casa Blanca

https://www.infobae.com/america/the-new ... tres-anos/

Totalmente irrisorio

[juancho.col]

Como quien dice, déjanos robar tantito más y nos vamos.

[Silver_Dragon]

Radar useño en Sant Croix

[Severino16]

Como quien dice, déjanos robar tantito más y nos vamos.

Simplemente se están burlando de Trump.