Fuerzas Armadas de Marruecos

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Hombre modernizaciones siempre han existido , lo mismo podieis haber het cho con los block 50 , es decir comprar viajas celulas y pasarlas a ese block ,pero seria de chiste modernizar celulas viejas al block 60 y comprar block50 nuevos! el contrario hubiera sido mas logico no cres? y una celula vieja ( desgastada ) tiene sus contra partes sino fuera el caso los yankee habrian hetcho como para los M1 , parar la produccion y seguir vendiendo celulas viejas modernizadas.

Ademas la modernizacion sulen costar bastante , asi que pensar que comprar celulas viejas y pasarlas a un block 60 os saldra bratito seria un poco ingenuo .
Para mi el grand problema sigue siendo un problema de pasta para vosotros .

Estimado @gosto-dz,usted mismo sabe muy bien que cuando Marruecos ha decidido adquirir 24 aparatos f-16 block52+,entonces lokheed martin aun no anunciaba esta nueva version de los f-16,la V,a parte de que el f-16 block60 solo supera al block52+ en capacidad de RADAR,el AESA AN/APG-80,este ultimo radar puede ser instalado en la actualidad en los blocks50/52+

La modernizacion de las antiguas versiones del f-16 a la version f-16V,da unos importantisimos cambios a antiguas versiones del f-16,como las versiones A/B e C/D blocks 15/25/40,estas ultimas versiones del caza f-16,pueden llevar radar AESA AN/APG-80,armamento avanzado como los AIM-120 C7,AIM9X-2 sidewinder,tanques conformados (CFT) etc...,cuando sean modernizados a la version f-16V.

Al parecer no tienes idea de lo que dices

Aqui tienes mas informacion !

F-16V – Falcons turn into Vipers

Lockheed Martin unveiled the new version of the F-16 at the Singapore Airshow. The F-16V will feature enhancements including an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar, an upgraded mission computer, communications capabilities and improved cockpit – all capabilities identified by the U.S. Air Force and several international customers for future improvements. AESA radars offer significant operational capability improvements. Two AESA radar models – Northrop Grumman’s SABR and Raytheon’s RACR are currently available for the F-16V.


Raytheon's RACR AESA radar is positioned as one of two AESA radars configured for the F-16. Photo: Raytheon

According to Lockheed Martin aeronautics VP business development, George Standridge, at present only U.S. made radars are cleared for the package, while insertion of foreign AESA radar is feasible, customers requiring such feature will have to request approval form the Department of Defense.

The F-16V configuration is an option for new production jets and elements of the upgrade are available to most earlier-model F-16s. The “V” designation is derived from Viper, the name fighter pilots have called the F-16 from its beginnings.

With nearly 4,500 F-16s delivered, the F-16V seems a natural step in the evolution of the F-16 ‘Fighting Falcon’. The program has continually evolved as it began with the F-16 A/B as the lightweight fighter then transitioned to F-16 C/D and Block 60 versions as customers’ requirements changed.

In recent years the F-16 has won new orders in Morocco, Egypt, Oman and Iraq carrying the production line through 2015. Lockheed Martin is looking for new opportunities that would carry the line through 2016-17. An upgrading program for 300 aircraft is currently considered by the U.S. Air Force; parallel programs currently underway in several Asian countries, including Singapore, Indonesia, Taiwan and South Korea.

http://defense-update.com/20120220_f-16 ... ipers.html


Larga vida al F-16

Un saludo

[JSOW]

Esto es la leche! dais por buena la compra del pantsir , con una fuente ! y me estais tomando la cabeza con las MEKOS y las FREMM con fuentes offciales !

A ver si lo entiendes Estimado @gosto-dz,con todo el respeto,argelia no puede adquirir o dotarse de armamento de ataque MADE IN THE WEST

Para mi sigue siendo un sueño eso de que argelia va a comprar un LPD italiano armado con misiles ASTER30 o FREEMs o MEKOs....,en fin,siempre cuando se trata de una fragata o corbeta o submarino o cazas de combate o carros de combate o de misiles de todo tipo,MADE IN THE WEST,no tengo ni la menor duda de que argelia no puede ni va a poder dotarse o adquirir a este material ni ha podido adquirir en el pasado.

Cuando se trata de marruecos,aunque yo no estoy totalmente seguro de la compra de los pantsir,no puedo decir que va a ser imporsible,porque marruecos ya ha adquirido armamento ruso anteriormente,lo contrario pasa en la situacion de argelia con el armamento occidental.

http://www.dsca.mil/results.htm?cx=010243369523196205081%3A7ihc6vq_u-g&cof=FORID%3A11&ie=UTF-8&q=eda&sa=Search&siteurl=www.dsca.mil%2F&ref=

esperemos que este año también...

Vale,muchas gracias


Un saludo

[gosto-dz]

Estimado JSOW
YA se que el contrato de los F-16 se firmo en el 2009 y que esa informacion ha sido recientmente dada por lokheed martin .
pero la pregunta que me hago ahora es la siguiente , porque habies comprado nuevos F-16C/D y no celulas viejas y modernizarlas en ese formato? si es opcion parece tan buena para no gastarse mucho dinero !
basandome sobre lo que he leido acerca del falcon desert , es una modernizacion mayor y no solo el radar que pasa de ser un PESA a un AESA , tambien se va tocar la avionica y sistemas internos , la reduccion del RCS , motor? asi que esa modernizacion mayor no promete ser barata... sobre todo si se trata de pasar de un block 42 a un block 60.
Si , pasa lo mismo con los SU-30MKI/A/M , india y rusia estan preparando la evolucion del SU-30MKIA al super flanker , radar AESA , reduccion del RCS , avionica nueva , capacidad de utulizar el brahmos.
ademas el tex to que dejas mas abajo habla sobre todo del mercado asiatico .... , creo que la question primordial para vostros , es cuanto puede costar tal modernizacion?
y sinceramente no creo que los yankee van a equipar a paises como egypto de un F-16 con AESA , hemos visto como que a veces con el ejmplo de taiwan donde china ejercio una pression para que los yankee no equpara taiwan de block52 y a cambio china haria lo mismo cond corea del norte , no se como se termino esa historia pero eso demustra que a veces no se trata solo de poner en el mercado un modernizacion y que un cliente este interesado en tal modernizacion , aveces la geopolitica es la clave.

por lo tanto no me creo eso que los yanke van a ofrecer esa modernizacion a ciertos paises.

aver si encuentro un texto donde un general egypcio hablo desde la plaza tahrir sobre los M1 y los F-16BLOCK42 egypcios.
EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzPG1AoN ... r_embedded (ESPERO QUE ENTIENDAS EL EGYPCION )
saludos

[JSOW]

Estimado JSOW
YA se que el contrato de los F-16 se firmo en el 2009 y que esa informacion ha sido recientmente dada por lokheed martin .
pero la pregunta que me hago ahora es la siguiente , porque habies comprado nuevos F-16C/D y no celulas viejas y modernizarlas en ese formato? si es opcion parece tan buena para no gastarse mucho dinero !

Es porque la version f-16 MLU es una version degradada,no llega a superar a un block 50/52+,el f-16 MLU no puede llevar ni tanques conformados,ni armamento avanzado como los AMRAAM C7 etc...,lo contrario pasa con la nueva version f-16V.

No hay posibilidad de comparacion entre un f-16 MLU y un f-16 block52+,como existe la posibilidad de comparar a un f-16V con un block 60 !!!

During a presentation at the Singapore Airshow, George Standridge, vice-president of business development at Lockheed Martin Aeronautics noted that most legacy F-16s can be upgraded to the F-16V standard, which is roughly equivalent to the F-16 block 60.

http://f-16.net/news_article4521.html

El f-16 MLU puede tener estas capabilidades ?

The “Viper” program will offer customers options, including an active electronically scanning array (AESA) radar, upgraded mission computers and architecture, improvements to the cockpit, and conformal fuel tanks.

http://www.defensenews.com/article/2012 ... |FRONTPAGE

No creo que usted puede saber mas que los responsables de lokheed martin !


Un saludo

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http://lignesdedefense.blogs.ouest-fran ... 1%20VF.pdf

GM400 and Ground Master 403

Origin: France

Contractor/s: ThalesRaytheonSystems

Description: The ThalesRaytheonSystems Ground Master 400, also known as GM400, is a highly mobile, fully digital air surveillance radar suitable against high, medium and low altitude targets. It can detect airborne threats at ranges between 5 to 390 kilometers and altitudes of up to 100,000-ft. The GM400 features: Digital Beam Forming; Stacked beam (maximum time on target); S-Band (high part 2.9 / 3.3 GHz); 2 Doppler modes; Electronic Counter-CounterMeasures (ECCM) capabilities; and tactical ballistic missile (TBM) detection capability. It can be deployed mounted on a 6x6 tactical truck and transported by a single C-130H aircraft or helicopter.

Crew: 4

Coverage
Azimuth Coverage: 360 °
Coverage in Elevation: 20 °

Performance
Max Detection Range: 390 kilometer (211 nautical mile)
Max Detection Range in Altitude: 100,000 foot (30.5 kilometer)
Max Instrumented Range: 470 kilometer

Time
Max Scan Rate: 6 second
Mean-Time Between Failures: 3,500 hour
SetUp Time: 30 minute (0.50 hour)

http://www.deagel.com/Ground-Sensors/Gr ... 80001.aspx

Part of the new high, medium and low-altitude fully digital GM 400 radar family, the GM 403 provides unmatched detection performances as well as outstanding operational availability. With an operational availability of greater than 99.9 percent and a mean time between critical failures of more than 3000 hours, the GM 400 is setting new standards in the air defense radar market.

The GM 403 has the capability to track highly maneuverable targets and tactical small radar cross-section aircraft flying at low or very low altitude. Due to its architecture, this radar can also be easily transported by air, sea, truck or rail, as it fits inside a single ISO 20-foot, 10-ton container.

http://www.thalesraytheon.com/en/newsro ... -thal.html

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300 Paratroopers Will Participate in Leapfest

More than 300 paratroopers will participate in a Rhode Island National Guard tradition on Saturday, August 6, 2011, when they participate in the 29th edition of Leapfest at the University of Rhode Island and West Kingstown Elementary School.

The Rhode Island National Guard’s Leapfest is the oldest and largest continuously conducted static-line parachute competition in the world. Though it is a multi-day training event, the competition which is held on Saturday has always been the exercise’s centerpiece.

The paratroopers hail primarily from the United States; however, foreign countries are always represented. In years past, airborne troops from such diverse countries as El Salvador and Bulgaria have competed. This year’s foreign teams include representatives from Morocco, Holland, England, Italy, Germany and Canada.

The Leapfest competition commences with a colorful 7 a.m. opening ceremony at URI’s turf fields by the Ryan center. Teams of four paratroopers then jump three times from CH-47 helicopters at 1,500 feet and try to race to a large orange “X” in the center of the West Kingstown Elementary School turf fields on Rte. 110, 3119 Ministerial Rd., West Kingston, RI. Each team has three attempts, and the team with the lowest aggregate time is declared the winner. Individual awards also are presented to the troopers with the lowest aggregate times

http://www.nationalguard.com/news/2011/ ... n-leapfest



(Leapfest 2011)

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New Moroccan F-16 Squadrons.

Some details have recently emerged of the squadrons which are operating the new RMAF F-16C/D Block 52s.
The aircraft are based at Ben Guerir AB (BA 6), where they are flown by 'Escadre de chasse Atlas Falcon'. It is now known that the unit has 3 'Escadrons de Chasse' which are named 'FALCON', 'SPARK' & 'VIPER'.

A total of 12 F-16 have so far been delivered to the RMAF. In other related news, L-3 Link Simulation & Training (L-3 Link) announced on February 14 that an F-16C Aircrew Training Device (ATD) built for the RMAF has reached "ready for the training status" on schedule & is now being used for pilot instruction. The ATD is installed at an unspecified base (presumably Ben Guerir), & is the 1st of 2 being built by L-3 Link for Morocco. The 2nd is scheduled to be ready for training in the 2nd quarter of 2013. Each ATD is integrated with L-3 Link's 9-panel, 350° field of view SimuSphere visual display & the SimuView image generation system, providing correlated imagery between out-of-the-window & cockpit sensor displays.

During simulation exercises with these advanced ATDs, RMAF pilots can acquire & identify targets, deliver a wide range of weapons, practice take-offs & landings, undertake in-flight refuelling & practice emergency procedures.

AFM April 2012.

Royal Moroccan Air Force's F-16 Aircrew Training Device Achieves Ready-for-Training Milestone

ARLINGTON, Texas | L-3 Link Simulation & Training (L-3 Link) announced today that an F-16C Block 52 Aircrew Training Device (ATD) built for the Royal Moroccan Air Force (RMAF) has reached ready-for-training status on schedule and is currently supporting pilot instruction.

The F-16C Block 52 ATD is installed at an RMAF air base. The simulator is the first of two RMAF F-16C Block 52 ATDs built by L-3 Link under this program. The second trainer is scheduled to achieve its ready-for-training milestone during the second quarter of 2013.

"Royal Moroccan Air Force pilots are now training on the most advanced F-16 Aircrew Training Device ever fielded to an international military," said Dan Kelly, vice president of Air Force programs at L-3 Link. "The F-16 Aircrew Training System will enable Royal Moroccan Air Force F-16 pilots to hone their air-to-air and air-to-ground combat skills within highly realistic operational environments while operating as a team."

During simulation exercises, pilots will be able to acquire and identify targets, deliver a wide range of ordnance, practice takeoffs and landings, conduct aerial in-flight refueling, and undertake emergency procedures.

Each F-16C Block 52 ATD is integrated with L-3 Link's nine-panel, 360-degree field-of-view SimuSphere visual display and the SimuView image generation system, which provides correlated imagery between out-the-window and cockpit sensor displays.


http://www.defpro.com/news/details/3237 ... b93d9f6daf

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Sobre la intervención en AS: Operation Scorched Earth



http://andrewgavinmarshall.com/2011/07/ ... an-empire/

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The Americans have been using a Moroccan air force base in the Sahara to conduct counter-terrorism surveillance operations using drones.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Special/201 ... 328039154/

[josex]

Amigo marroquí los F-5 de marruecos que pasara con ellos ?,se daran de baja conforme vienen los F-16 o en que estado operativo estan ?

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Los F-5E/F upgreados, que son unos 24, seguirán hasta 2015-2020, los F-5A/B ya no están en funcionamiento desde hace un par de años, y sólo sirven para canibalizar las piezas, etc.
Con la llegada total del F-16 seguiremos con el MF2000 (dando de baja los F1 no modernizados) siendoestos dos los multirol por excelencia, y con el F-5E/F upgreados y con los Alpha Jet E para ataques ligeros a tierra y de segunda linea (como aviones anti-insurgencia).
Lo único que haría dar de baja los F-5 sería una segunda compra de F-16, al igual que con la futura baja entre el 2020-2025 del MF2000, se espera otro vector en los hangars de la RMAF.

Espero haberte solucionado la duda, saludos

[josex]

Los F-5E/F upgreados, que son unos 24, seguirán hasta 2015-2020, los F-5A/B ya no están en funcionamiento desde hace un par de años, y sólo sirven para canibalizar las piezas, etc.
Con la llegada total del F-16 seguiremos con el MF2000 (dando de baja los F1 no modernizados) siendoestos dos los multirol por excelencia, y con el F-5E/F upgreados y con los Alpha Jet E para ataques ligeros a tierra y de segunda linea (como aviones anti-insurgencia).
Lo único que haría dar de baja los F-5 sería una segunda compra de F-16, al igual que con la futura baja entre el 2020-2025 del MF2000, se espera otro vector en los hangars de la RMAF.

Espero haberte solucionado la duda, saludos

gracias por la informacion, ¿aunque podrias epxlicar un poco en que consiste esa modernizaicon a MF-2000?,los F-16 Block 50 y los F-5 E/F conozco bastante de ellos,pero de esos mirage F1 modernizados nose mucho.

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Más de lo entregado hasta ahora al RMAF y los escuadrones que tienen asignados los Vipers:

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ASTAC Elint pod
This combat-proven system is in service with France, Japan and the air forces of several other countries. Recording capabilities and datalinks for real-time interfaces with ground stations are available as options.

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